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Anti-DRM Activists Take On the BBC

Posted by CowboyNeal on Saturday June 09, @12:21PM
from the doing-what's-right dept.
An anonymous reader writes "Activists from Binary Freedom Boston have launched a campaign calling on the BBC to release their content online without DRM or proprietary formats. You might remember the BBC asking us about this earlier and even though the public chose not to use DRM by a landslide, they still decided to use it. EMI and Amazon have already ditched DRM. How long before the BBC does?"

Anti-DRM Activists Take On the BBC

Posted by CowboyNeal on Saturday June 09, @12:21PM
from the doing-what's-right dept.
An anonymous reader writes "Activists from Binary Freedom Boston have launched a campaign calling on the BBC to release their content online without DRM or proprietary formats. You might remember the BBC asking us about this earlier and even though the public chose not to use DRM by a landslide, they still decided to use it. EMI and Amazon have already ditched DRM. How long before the BBC does?"

by Anonymous Coward on Saturday June 09, @12:31PM (#19451197)
If the BBC's charter is "bringing the UK to the world"
then why is the BBC's channel on youtube geo-blocked outside the UK?

(and yes the BBC World channel is open but it does not carry the same content)

The BBC seems to be on an ugly trend lately, embracing Microsoft, DRM, geo-blocking... what's next? content censorship for viewers in China, etc?

The problem

(Score:1, Interesting)
by Anonymous Coward on Saturday June 09, @12:32PM (#19451205)
The problem is royalties for net based distribution, the morons at equity (the union) refuse to recognize that repeat fees are unworkable in the digital age.

It will change gradually as those who stick to the outmoded royalties model find themselves without work. If these guys really want to protest - target equity [equity.org.uk]
  • by DrXym (126579) on Saturday June 09, @12:37PM (#19451253)
    Amazon Unbox is as DRM infested as they come. Perhaps they've chosen to unencumber certain music tracks (no doubt to "coincide" with a price hike), but movies? No way.
  • by geoff lane (93738) on Saturday June 09, @12:37PM (#19451257)
    I see no reason why the BBC should award a monopoly to any company and their media format for material owned by the BBC. It is not the job of the BBC to support Microsoft, Real or any other closed format exclusively.

    I note with interest that the various free/open media formats are available on every platform and do not require license payments. The only reason not to use a free/open format is DRM and if that is the case here then the BBC is making a wrong choice for both technical and financial reasons.
  • So some group of yahoo's out of Massachusetts have decided that they dont like restrictions on free content? The anti-drm argument is fine when its paid for content (If I buy it I should be able to do what I want) but free content should be distributed however the owner wants to do it. Their arguments are rather sad. The first one is that DRM doesnt work, if thats the case then why worry about it, just circumvent it and shut the hell up. The second point makes no sense, what right do you have to free content? The third point streches it about as far as it can go...you can watch anytime you want so how is the lack of being able to copy inhibiting your ability to learn? DRM is their business decision, in some cases its done to protect content that can provide revenue to the BBC such as blocking access to the Torchwood site content to those outside the area's in which its shown. The argument is made that the BBC is paid for by the public, which is true but last I checked Boston didnt pay the TV tax so IMHO they have negated their voice in the matter simply by location. I hate DRM as much as anyone but the argument made by Binary Freedom Bostom just comes across as a bunch of whining hippies who were upset that they couldnt easily record Hex.
  • Part of the problem is that a lot of the "BBC's" content isn't actually owned by the BBC because they just buy it in from 3rd parties (I'm talking original programming here, not stuff bought from the US etc).

    The smart thing to do (depending on your attitude towards these things) would be to take the Apple-esque route and make all of the BBC-owned content available sans-DRM (but maintaining the existing geo-IP blocks for non UK users as is required) and then make everything else available DRM-encumbered with clear information explaining why this is the case and who to contact if you want to bitch about it.

    To be honest, I do believe that if they had the choice, the BBC would open up all of their archives for DRM-free download to UK citizens, but it's not always as simple as that.
  • in soviet britan

    (Score:2)
    by superwiz (655733) on Saturday June 09, @12:47PM (#19451317)
    (Last Journal: Saturday April 21, @07:17PM)
    music own you
  • How about never?

    (Score:0)
    by residents_parking (1026556) on Saturday June 09, @12:51PM (#19451343)
    The BBC is a state protected monopoly, a relic of a bygone modernist age. The TV License is not a tax, nor are the BBC part of the state. They are a media company guaranteed a significant income by the laws of the land, for which they in turn have to meet certain criteria in their programming and the way the business is run. But they still sell DVDs at a profit, why should they not try to milk the market any way they see fit? FYI I'm not a fan of the setup. From the start the BBC was supposed to "Educate, Entertain, and Inform." This was pre-WWII mind. The world is different now, there's no shortage of transmission technology, no use for a monopoly just to keep morale up during the depression and then the blitz. I'd happily settle for "Educate" and leave the other two to commercial programmers.
  • What about NPR?

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    by freelunch (258011) on Saturday June 09, @12:53PM (#19451359)
    Why can't we easily download NPR content in a friendly format?

    It seems like their audio is WMV or RP and the download links are buried. I don't want to launch a proprietary player from my browser or otherwise, thankyourverymuch.

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